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Post by Mo Fri Sep 05, 2014 7:32 pm

Isn't this the machine someone posted a video about. It's about time some made another OP machine with the collapsible handle . Let me guess it 4000.00 dollars, They do look cool though, Who is Charles?

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Post by CleanTech Fri Sep 05, 2014 9:00 pm

higher then that Mo.

I make allot of $ per hour with it ! and this one has more head weight then mine.

imagine that, the new color matches my truck.....
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Post by procarpet Fri Sep 05, 2014 10:51 pm

Yeah, try 5,499.  If you are really into vlm, I suppose its a good deal.  But... you could almost buy 2 19" cimex machines for that.  Or 5 175's, or 3 varios, a mytee escape if you wanted a porty... I can't see the value, but that's just me I suppose.  Then again I'm new to the vlm game
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Post by milspec6 Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:46 am

That is pretty high, but when you add the weight kit to the Sprayborg, you don't have a cheap date either. So, if it is more robustly built than the orbot and your business was geared more towards the VLM side, then it probably isn't that bad when you consider the ROI.

I almost choked on the cost of my Butler TM too, but my ROI is probably 5x that cost over the years. Why should it be different with the VLM machines?
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Post by Mo Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:00 pm

I guess when you look at it that way Rob.
But I just can't see myself spending almost 6 grand on an OP machine,
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Post by Freemind1 Sat Sep 06, 2014 5:02 pm

Me either Mo.

6K could buy you ALOT more than a wiggle machine.

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Post by CleanTech Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:14 am

why do we all buy more then just basic entry level portable?

once you have answered that question

apply it to the vlm machine with the highest/largest speed and head weight.

cimex, sure it works. ( own one) but thats like having a portable that isnt able to do upholstery or rinse tile lol. its a limited machine.

you want to do it faster with higher quality and have more options for other types of flooring.
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Post by Floorguy Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:29 pm

The Charles is probably because of the bad deal that happened, what a year or 2 ago with john and someone who bought one of his machines....and it was bent or out of whack some how, and when the guy sent it back John some how damaged the shipping and then refused shipment....

or something along those lines....

soooo pretty much a name change because his went kaput
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Post by CleanTech Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:34 pm

Grumpy is in honor of his dad. (Was his nickname).
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Post by Fuzzsucker Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:11 am

I think the machine looks awsome, but almost $6k is insane. The cost of build material on these is close to a grand. I think he is going with the less is more attitude. Make huge profits on less machines and have less customers to deal with complaints and repairs I guess. I would drop around $3k on one of these, but I cant see the value at that price, but im not a full time vlm guy. Also when considering I can build a nice TM for that amount.
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Post by CleanTech Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:57 pm

Ordered one with the discount and sold cimex and orbot so wasn't too bad. I'm sure I'll have video up.
I do a ton of commercial and hard floor (lvt, sheet flooring etc) so it's a prefect fit for me
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Post by Pete@TCC Mon Nov 03, 2014 8:37 pm

Hey CT, have you got the grumpy now? How are you finding it?

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Post by Davey Cracker Mon Nov 03, 2014 8:41 pm

So, what did you pay for the grampy lol cleanTech?
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Post by Mo Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:01 pm

He's grumpy cause he paid 6K for it Very Happy

Just kidding Dustin. Did you get it yet?
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