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Post by brianbenaiah Sat May 16, 2015 8:35 am

I will be cleaning vct tiles in kitchen of an apartment. It is a light color and there there are some dark scrape marks from chairs. What is the best way to clean and type of cleaner? Then some type of protectent. 175 with white or other color of pads?
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Post by dp1 Sat May 16, 2015 10:04 am

I usually use t & g cleaning solution like viper venom ( don't use acid based solutions because you'll be paying for new appliances if they're stainless steel ).
If it's a small area, I would just wand it, no need to risk hauling big 175 all the way there or accidentally bumping it to appliances or cabinets.
Now regarding protectant or seals, I don't know, I'm interested to know what some of you have used, I've seen some really shiny VCT in commercial offices, I also wonder how to apply that stuff so that they won't come out streaky.
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Post by Davey Cracker Sat May 16, 2015 2:44 pm

The proper way to deal with VCT, is usually strip off all the old wax with stripper. It can take a couple/few applications, and scrubbing with 175 with black pad to remove all of it depending on how much wax is on it, and then once you have it stripped down you apply several coats of new wax to the desired shine.

To give you an idea, Here's a nasty Apt. kitchen I did a while back.

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Post by Davey Cracker Sat May 16, 2015 3:12 pm

I also did a little repair at this one, replaced a couple broken/duct taped tiles. wink

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Post by Mo Sat May 16, 2015 3:15 pm

Nice work Dave. One of these days I'm going to do a vct strip just for the fun of it
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Post by brianbenaiah Sat May 16, 2015 3:58 pm

looks great.  Whats the name of the VCT(lol) stripper and Flooring Laughing wax you use.


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Post by Davey Cracker Sat May 16, 2015 4:11 pm

The stripper I use I just get from the local Janitorial supply place.

The finish/wax the last couple jobs I've bought some stuff from Lowe's. I'll look at it and post a pic of if as soon as I do.
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Post by milspec6 Sat May 16, 2015 6:06 pm

Davey Cracker wrote:The stripper I use I just get from the local Janitorial supply place.

The finish/wax the last couple jobs I've bought some stuff from Lowe's.  I'll look at it and post a pic of if as soon as I do.

You can get strippers at your janitorial supply house? All I can get are mops and illegals. Bring lots of dollar bills. Razz Rolling Eyes
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Post by Davey Cracker Sat May 16, 2015 6:12 pm

I think we may be talking about different types of strippers.
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Post by brianbenaiah Sat May 16, 2015 7:34 pm

brianbenaiah wrote:looks great.  Whats the name of the stripper and wax you use.
Crud I better change my wording so my better half dont see this Mad

Every time I look back over that floor its a amazing how nice it turned out, big difference a good cleaning made.
Whats a good price per square foot the one I'm doing is old style apartment kitchen and dinning are probably 15'x15. How much time to clean an area from start to finish.
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Post by milspec6 Sat May 16, 2015 8:42 pm

I just realized something here....is that VCT layered over another?

More importantly, is that layer beneath it of 70's vintage.....they were asbestos based in the adhesive.  It sure looks like the right pattern to be.

This is old farmhouse country and it was common practice to seal the old asbestos tile beneath another layer rather than pay someone to mitigate it.

My house was one of those, it took me 3 days to tent it off and mitigate....good thing I had the equipment and haz-mat experience or it would have cost a fortune.


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Post by milspec6 Sat May 16, 2015 8:49 pm

http://inspectapedia.com/hazmat/Asbestos_Floor_Tile_ID.php

Worth reading if you are going to deal with flooring....be safe.
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Post by brianbenaiah Sat May 16, 2015 9:01 pm

Thanks mil, I remember those old tiles when I was young. It cost a lot of money to remove asbestos.
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Post by Davey Cracker Sat May 16, 2015 10:51 pm

I don't know and don't care much.............it's a once in a couple year deal, really......first time in 25 years actually.
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Post by Davey Cracker Sat May 16, 2015 10:56 pm

BTW, VCT isn't necessarily old, I finished this new install awhile back..


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Post by milspec6 Sun May 17, 2015 7:26 am

Davey Cracker wrote:I don't know and don't care much.............it's a once in a couple year deal, really......first time in 25 years actually.

It only takes once to be affected. Shocked

The risk is actually pretty low as long as you avoid power tools. What gets most people in trouble is trying to remove the remaining adhesive with a sander after the tile was scraped off. Nothing like asbestos dust kicked into your face to make a short life even shorter.
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Post by Ken Raddon Sun May 17, 2015 7:38 am

I made a full dvd about stripping and waxing that I used to sell before youtube got popular. If you want a copy let me know I'd send it to you for the cost of mailing it, about $5

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Post by brianbenaiah Sun May 17, 2015 8:34 am

Ken Raddon wrote:I made a full dvd about stripping and waxing that I used to sell before youtube got popular.  If you want a copy let me know I'd send it to you for the cost of mailing it, about $5

Thanks Ken. Cool
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Post by Davey Cracker Sun May 17, 2015 10:54 am

milspec6 wrote:
Davey Cracker wrote:I don't know and don't care much.............it's a once in a couple year deal, really......first time in 25 years actually.

It only takes once to be affected. Shocked

The risk is actually pretty low as long as you avoid power tools.  What gets most people in trouble is trying to remove the remaining adhesive with a sander after the tile was scraped off.  Nothing like asbestos dust kicked into your face to make a short life even shorter.

Oh yea I know better than to create and stir up dust.

These tiles were glued down with what looked like carpet padding glue, you know the stuff that never fully cures and stays tacky...........typical homeowner job.  So it was easy to remove the stuff.

It's that old linoleum underneath I wouldn't mess with.
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Post by milspec6 Sun May 17, 2015 2:52 pm

I knew that you were aware of it, just wanted to put it out there for those shadow people that read the board, but never participate.

Oh, and you guys are welcome. Cool
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Post by Mo Mon May 18, 2015 4:46 pm

Ken Raddon wrote:I made a full dvd about stripping and waxing that I used to sell before youtube got popular.  If you want a copy let me know I'd send it to you for the cost of mailing it, about $5

Can you upload it to youtube Ken?
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Post by Aim Bond Cleaning Tue Jul 21, 2015 6:08 am

Hii,
we read your problem after that i have a soln for you to clean the tiles use Vinegar

If soap scum or water spots have dulled the ceramic tiles around your sink or bath, bring back the brightness by scrubbing them with 1/2 cup white vinegar, 1/2 cup ammonia, and 1/4 cup borax mixed in 1 gallon (3.7 liters) warm water. Rinse well with cool water and let air-dry.
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Post by milspec6 Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:23 am

Nope, not old, but that tile showing beneath the broken panel was definitely circa late 60's to mid-70's. Cool

VCT is actually making a strong comeback in this area. I just saw a barber shop and dental office both installing new VCT flooring.

Maybe I should expand a little and consider doing these jobs? I never enjoyed them in the past due to the time that it takes, but if charged accordingly, I could get to liking them. Rolling Eyes
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Post by Davey Cracker Fri Sep 25, 2015 5:58 pm

Just really depends on if you're looking to do a maint cleaning, or a full restoration, stripping and refinishing I guess.

But yea, old thread from the dead. laughing
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