Re: Cimex or CRB

by Davey Cracker Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:09 pm

milspec6 wrote:An update:

I had the meeting and we walked over to the building for inspection. I was bracing for the worst after all the panic reports the day before. When we walked through the building, things were dry and no odors present...they ran the a/c all day to remove moisture.

Here is the strange part, the carpet looked really good minus a couple of dirt streaks that only I noticed. The employees were actually complimentary after seeing the filthy carpet for years and asked if I would be cleaning it more often in the future.

End of the day, it was placed on a quarterly cleaning schedule in 2014. I officially live in bizarro world now.

Wheew! Disaster averted, huh!?

Man, I'm glad it was just being blown outa proportion and it worked out good. Time to celebrate!! coctail

That's why I try not to get myself too worked up about stuff, and over think,(not saying that's what you did, just giving an example of what I do Smile

), because just when I have myself convinced I'm not getting a big job, lets just say 'because I aaume my price was too high', they call me and say we want you to do the job, and we 'thought it would cost more!' lol!

by bwild Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:21 pm

Davey,

I should have been more specific. I demoed it for a few months and I do mostly commercial/hospitality. Not one specific job.

by milspec6 Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:12 pm

CleanTech wrote:glad it worked out for you!

get the sprayborg, or just make the darn thing if your able to then get the weight kit, or again have it made. I permanently leave 2 weight plates on per side. On the orbot its mandatory imo. Only has around 35 pounds of head weight otherwise which is not enough.

or just get your self a zipper.....

I did actually add the weight kit a few months ago and it really woke up the machine's performance. I am looking into adding that sprayborg, but it seemed over-priced the last time that I looked.

Oh, and I like the Zipper tease.....

by Davey Cracker Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:23 pm

bwild wrote:Davey,

I should have been more specific. I demoed it for a few months and I do mostly commercial/hospitality. Not one specific job.

Oh ok, now that I re-read what you said, you didn't give an indication it was all one job anyways, like I assumed. lol!

by Cannon100 Mon Oct 28, 2013 7:57 pm

Cimex or a good OP machine with sprayer, the crb has a place but not a stand alone for commercial

by kleen1 Sat Jan 04, 2014 9:55 am

Based on the conditions mentioned, I would use a cimex. CRB are useful, but I have both and have done side by side to understand the difference. Cimex or rotary will outperform the crb.
I still use the crb on warranty jobs that prohibit using rotary machines, but I also hwe those jobs more often.
How far were you carrying the water? If the water was close enough, an auto-fill?auto-dump machine with atleast 500 psi could save a lot of time on big commercial jobs. Follow up hwe with encap and bonnet will show amazing results and dry quicker.

by milspec6 Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:06 am

Every time I convince myself that the crb is the next tool for me, I find someone who turns me back towards the cimex. I am starting to think that I need both just to decide for myself, but that would be costly.

As for water supply...it was 200 feet away from much of the job. I have that same job on a quarterly schedule this year so I will experiment a little to find the right approach. The first one will be making sure that I bring some extra bodies.

by Ryan S Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:41 am

These type commercial jobs can go for about three years with encap cleaning before you want to flush with TM. I would think that an orbot or cimex would be perfect for this application. If you don't have the on board application system have a helper with a multi sprayer apply the encap in front like Mo did in his video.

by Joe Bristor Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:03 am

for me it's CRB for cut pile where you need to dig in.
Orbital or rotary for berbers where you just need heavy scrubbing.

by Fuzzsucker Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:59 pm

Crb= High speed and easy pre agitation for hwe or tile cleaning. Lite vlm work. Super maneuverable and portable.
Cimex= Huge commercial vlm accounts. Straight encap super fast with pads. Idiot proof.
175 or jiggler= Smaller commercial vlm, stripping and waxing, padcap, etc.... Most versatile.

by Jmikegraham Wed Mar 19, 2014 4:53 pm

I'm with Fuzzsucker. Only difference is I will use the Cimex to do the intial cleaning and run a CRB right behind picking up the crud left behind and sometimes making the carpet look a little prettier.

by Scott rampage Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:01 am

A crb is good if you do a regular maintenance and picking up hair and debree out of the carpet fibers but I think the cimex cleans better.

by REALCLEAN Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:17 pm

How long you can go on commercial before you "flush" is largely dependant on what polymer you're using and what method.

If you're encapping, going longer than a year is too long imo. If you're padcapping properly you can go longer, but especially if you're using a crystal. Films should be flushed annually from my experience. If you go years between HWE with a filmcap, you're going to go through a case of defoamer.

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