Re: Magic Wands Universal HX

by Mo Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:35 am

Thanks for the input Tom. LP heat is the conclusion I'm coming to as well especially with the 18 HP briggs that I have.

I spoke to the Reliabilt guy yesterday he has been testing a new design for HXer's. He said that his 16 HP model is raising water temps 60-80 degrees with 40 degree incoming water. Its round 20-22" long 4 1/2 inches long vertical instal. Current price is $695.00 and anticipates an increase as the project moves along. He's 3 weeks out on orders.

by Mo Thu Apr 16, 2015 10:11 am

I spoke to Blue Baron in Florida. They do not sell replacement coils for little giants. I think ACE mentioned that. They have a patented design that is not your typical coiled design. Heavy gauge stainless steel, 3500 PSI rating, 18 inched long outside diameter is a little over 8 inches twice as round as the Reliabilt HX. He estimated a 150 to 170 percent increase with my 18 hp briggs with disclaimer of the various variables involved in this estimate. $995.00 plus shipping

by Mo Thu Apr 16, 2015 10:16 am

If Blue Barron or Relibilt is reading this thread please feel free to comment or correct any errors in my communication with you.

by milspec6 Thu Apr 16, 2015 10:26 am

Mo wrote:Thanks for the input Tom. LP heat is the conclusion I'm coming to as well especially with the 18 HP briggs that I have.

I spoke to the Reliabilt guy yesterday he has been testing a new design for HXer's. He said that his 16 HP model is raising water temps 60-80 degrees with 40 degree incoming water. Its round 20-22" long 4 1/2 inches long vertical instal. Current price is $695.00 and anticipates an increase as the project moves along. He's 3 weeks out on orders.

Sounds like a great pre-heater for me in the winter....will have to check this one out.

by dp1 Fri Apr 17, 2015 6:33 am

What Tom is saying makes sense BUT how the heck Prochem gets 220 degrees temp out of their Blazer, that uses HX system ? I would take a look at the manual and see where they put their HX in that unit and place it in the same spot ?

by SCCC Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:19 pm

It will get it there but it will drop like a rock in water, I have a Legend stock you can really drop the temps pretty quick.
Keeping the heat high is the problem

by Mo Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:05 am

Yeah that's what the guy at magic wand said wasn't confidant that it would sustain the heat

by Matt; My carpet cleaner Sat Apr 18, 2015 12:30 pm

Mo wrote:I spoke to Blue Baron in Florida. They do not sell replacement coils for little giants. I think ACE mentioned that. They have a patented design that is not your typical coiled design. Heavy gauge stainless steel, 3500 PSI rating, 18 inched long outside diameter is a little over 8 inches twice as round as the Reliabilt HX. He estimated a 150 to 170 percent increase with my 18 hp briggs with disclaimer of the various variables involved in this estimate. $995.00 plus shipping

It was a HX option.

by Matt; My carpet cleaner Sat Apr 18, 2015 12:33 pm

dp1 wrote:What Tom is saying makes sense BUT how the heck Prochem gets 220 degrees temp out of their Blazer, that uses HX system ? I would take a look at the manual and see where they put their HX in that unit and place it in the same spot ?

I've read, more like 180-190° for that little put-put machine

by Mo Sat Apr 18, 2015 1:37 pm

Matt; My carpet cleaner wrote:
Mo wrote:I spoke to Blue Baron in Florida. They do not sell replacement coils for little giants. I think ACE mentioned that. They have a patented design that is not your typical coiled design. Heavy gauge stainless steel, 3500 PSI rating, 18 inched long outside diameter is a little over 8 inches twice as round as the Reliabilt HX. He estimated a 150 to 170 percent increase with my 18 hp briggs with disclaimer of the various variables involved in this estimate. $995.00 plus shipping
It was a HX option.

Yes sir. Pretty good price huh. A couple a hundred more for diverter etc

by Davey Cracker Sat Apr 18, 2015 2:59 pm

Mo wrote:I spoke to Blue Baron in Florida. They do not sell replacement coils for little giants. I think ACE mentioned that. They have a patented design that is not your typical coiled design. Heavy gauge stainless steel, 3500 PSI rating, 18 inched long outside diameter is a little over 8 inches twice as round as the Reliabilt HX. He estimated a 150 to 170 percent increase with my 18 hp briggs with disclaimer of the various variables involved in this estimate. $995.00 plus shipping

Is that their version of a replacement LG coil?.........or some kind of HX?

by Mo Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:29 pm

No not a replacement its their universal HX.

by ACE Services Sat Apr 18, 2015 7:48 pm

Pc blazer factory has a temp sensor that keeps temperature around 180 185. Now a blazer xl I don't think holds temperature very well. Blazer GT I would have to look into it.

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