VLM will change the way you clean

Andy Mc wrote:Making stuff up ,   implying things I never said , nor argued against.   all in an attempt to "win"  .    

If you actually read (or comprehended)  my post on this matter you will see that you actually agree with what I've said.  

and that I conceded that you may have a point on the particular pad that you mention.

Where we went from that to calling me a" flat earther"  or a denier of science is beyond me.

I can only conclude that your intention is not the truth of honest discussion,    but rather to pose as some one smarter then you actually are,  you have no choice but to try and do this because you know your out gunned.

Any one that reads carefully the exchange you and I have had will agree with me.   (unless they are part of the anti Andy agenda.)

Dang bro. You got some insecurities to work out. You're taking illustrations as personal attacks? My illustrations may be poor, or not well thought out sometimes, but I promise I have a solid grasp of the English language. If I think you're stupid, I'll say "Andy, I think you're stupid." That's not gonna happen.

I enjoy this board because of education and ideas. I avoid other boards because there are so many mouth breathers in this industry that use message boards as a pissing contest. Life is too short to waste with those idiots.

I don't come here to sound "smart." I come here because I don't want to be ignorant. I can learn something from everybody.

You will never see me argue a point based on my experience. If I argue a point, I will provide data. If someone else provides conflicting data, that's a good thing. It's called education.

The point is your arguing a topic that I posed no argument on.

The topic that we were discussing was perty much settled and you voiced agreement with what I said,

Just as I conceded that your point could be valid based on the information you gave on a pad that I never tried.


From there we go to the implication that I'm a denier of science (along the lines of those who still think the earth is flat.) then you pose arguments against points I never raised.

That's why we are not able to have an honest discussion,

Andy Mc wrote:The point is your arguing a topic that I posed no argument on.

The topic that we were discussing  was perty much settled and you voiced agreement with what I said,  

Just  as I conceded that your point could be valid   based on the information you gave on a pad that I never tried.


From there we go to  the implication that I'm  a denier of science (along the lines of those who still think the earth is flat.)   then you pose arguments against   points I never raised.

That's why we are not able to have an honest discussion,      

Lol! Ok. Sorry.

All I know is that I'm trying those pads and Andy's reference to the "Anti Andy Agenda" was funny as hell  

In a pissing contest everyone gets a little wet.

just curious but could I see a picture of a used DMS pad beside a used one of these?

http://microfiber-products.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=78

for science reasons

CleanTech wrote:just curious but could I see a picture of a used DMS pad beside a used one of these?

http://microfiber-products.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=78

for science reasons

They wear very similar. I give the edge to the blue ones because the microfiber seems to be a higher GSM, but that's just a guess, they claim they don't know. The polyethylene content is smaller, and they're cheaper.

I can take a picture of both and post it. Gonna have to give me a minute, that kinda stuff ain't my cup of tea.

REALCLEAN wrote:These are a bit better than the directmopsales bonnets.

http://microfiber-products.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=78

Ill give these a shot. I have already tried the other two that are showing on the swede site. The one with the scrub stripe were junk didn't last long at all on the Orbot

Mo wrote:

REALCLEAN wrote:These are a bit better than the directmopsales bonnets.

http://microfiber-products.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=78

Ill give these a shot. I have already tried the other two that are showing on the swede site. The one with the scrub stripe were junk didn't last long at all on the Orbot

It appears that he's just reselling the DMS bonnets like everyone else is doing.

That's why I'm making my own. I just can't get Starfiber to pick up the phone.